I decided it was time for me to leave institutions and live in the outside world.

It took me from being pretty much a no hoper and gave me a trade.

Weather is one of those absolutely vital components for the military.

The scientists could sit in quite a comfortable caravan cabin in the back, air-conditioned and so on and so forth.

So the feeling of being war refugee is— it's what I think it will stay with me for really long, long time.